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Regarding the post on https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=418837#p418837, I _might_ be able to help with certain things 17:08 MinionTest3 yes thats true 17:08 MinionTest3 but I got some BIG PROBLEMS 17:08 MinionTest3 2022-12-15 18:02:12: ACTION[Server]: Miniontoby right-clicks object 105: LuaEntitySAO "advtrains:moretrains_nightline_seat_car" at (-143,3,-75) 17:08 MinionTest3 2022-12-15 18:02:14: WARNING[Server]: SQLite3 database has been locked for 250 ms. 17:08 MinionTest3 2022-12-15 18:02:15: ERROR[Server]: SQLite3 database has been locked for 1000 ms; this causes lag. 17:08 MinionTest3 2022-12-15 18:02:17: ERROR[Server]: SQLite3 database has been locked for 3000 ms - giving up! 17:09 MinionTest3 2022-12-15 18:02:17: WARNING[Server]: SQLite3 database has been locked for 250 ms. 17:09 MinionTest3 2022-12-15 18:02:18: ERROR[Server]: SQLite3 database has been locked for 1000 ms; this causes lag. 17:09 MinionTest3 2022-12-15 18:02:20: ERROR[Server]: SQLite3 database has been locked for 3000 ms - giving up! 17:09 MinionTest3 server doesnt want to stop 17:10 MinionTest3 Oh wait mapserver locks 17:10 MinionTest3 17:10 MinionTest3 y5nw: I am pleased that you joined 17:11 MinionTest3 You actuaaly joined at the same moment as I joined the server, hmm 17:12 MinionTest3 if you can tell me your nickname for minetest you will be using 17:12 foreverMt5-30006 *** Miniontoby joined the game 17:12 BanaDrop Hello Miniontoby. 17:13 foreverMt5-30006 hmm it didn't save the train crash, fiew 17:14 y5nw MinionTest3: preferably "ywang" 17:14 foreverMt5-30006 [WHITELIST] + ywang 17:14 foreverMt5-30006 you can join 17:14 y5nw Ok. 17:15 MinionTest3 if you are fammiliar with reading /topic then you know where to join 17:15 MinionTest3 or else I tell you it is minetest.ircforever.org:30006 17:16 MinionTest3 I will be having diner soon 17:16 foreverMt5-30006 *** ywang joined the game 17:16 BanaDrop Hello ywang. 17:16 foreverMt5-30006 hi 17:16 foreverMt5-30006 yay the spawn works 17:16 foreverMt5-30006 this I already build 17:16 foreverMt5-30006 and yeah some information boards 17:16 foreverMt5-30006 just wait here for train 17:17 foreverMt5-30006 or walk 17:17 foreverMt5-30006 sure 17:17 foreverMt5-30006 I have my own implementation for that 17:17 foreverMt5-30006 I used the env based 17:17 foreverMt5-30006 If you need/want any other mods, tell me 17:17 foreverMt5-30006 my implementation is currently private. It needs significant cleanup before I publish it. Or I might as well rewrite it from scratch 17:18 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: this setup is a potential source of deadlocks 17:18 foreverMt5-30006 Yes thats why I didn be able to do two trains 17:18 foreverMt5-30006 as I mentioned 17:18 foreverMt5-30006 the problem is that your setup lets trains wait in single-track sections 17:19 foreverMt5-30006 I followed blockheads tutorial 17:19 foreverMt5-30006 for this 17:19 foreverMt5-30006 here 17:19 foreverMt5-30006 not exactly. Your setup differs in that Blockhead's setup involves single-track sections only at the end of the lines 17:20 foreverMt5-30006 because I attached the line to the spawn? 17:20 foreverMt5-30006 in that case, single-track sections do not pose a problem because trains can only enter and exit them from/to one direction 17:20 foreverMt5-30006 maybe we just need to setup 1 track to go to here and back to spawn 17:21 foreverMt5-30006 and then just do the rest with different setup 17:21 foreverMt5-30006 like this one to reversed and remove the the two way thingy 17:21 foreverMt5-30006 in your case, the sigle-track section is connected on both ends, which can cause deadlocks because you can have situations where deadlocks occur 17:21 foreverMt5-30006 oke 17:22 foreverMt5-30006 let me stop train 17:22 foreverMt5-30006 what If 17:22 foreverMt5-30006 I remove switch her 17:22 foreverMt5-30006 place station here 17:23 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: it has to do with your signaling and interlocking setup, not (primarily) the stations 17:23 foreverMt5-30006 but I think having a main station here 17:23 foreverMt5-30006 is better 17:24 foreverMt5-30006 as I said, this is not relevant. The problem is with how you set up your signals 17:24 foreverMt5-30006 can you set it up? 17:24 foreverMt5-30006 not now. I will go to dinner soon. I can help afterward 17:25 foreverMt5-30006 I did not mention this in the MT forum: https://patchouli.sr.ht/builds.sr.ht/artifacts/~gpcf/902416/44803cf08cd72f1f/a4manual.pdf <- page 20 (section 3.8.2); that file is machine-generated so it will be cleared 90 days after that commit (i.e. around March 2023) 17:26 foreverMt5-30006 oke 17:27 foreverMt5-30006 downloaded it 17:27 foreverMt5-30006 in the meantime, I will go to dinner. I should also consider extending the section on interlocking when I have time in the holidays 17:27 foreverMt5-30006 *** ywang left the game 17:27 foreverMt5-30006 me too diner 17:27 foreverMt5-30006 *** Miniontoby left the game 17:27 foreverMt5-30006 *** Miniontoby joined the game 17:27 BanaDrop Hello Miniontoby. 17:27 MinionTest3 but need to check trina 17:29 foreverMt5-30006 *** Miniontoby left the game 17:49 foreverMt5-30006 *** ywang joined the game 17:50 BanaDrop Hello ywang. 17:50 foreverMt5-30006 hi 18:01 foreverMt5-30002 *** ssss joined the game 18:01 BanaDrop Hello ssss. 18:02 foreverMt5-30006 *** ywang left the game 18:04 foreverMt5-30002 *** ssss left the game 18:14 MinionTest3 yeah I had to leave 18:15 MinionTest3 Oh I understand what uou mean now 18:16 foreverMt5-30002 *** ssss joined the game 18:16 BanaDrop Hello ssss. 18:16 MinionTest3 hey ssss 18:17 foreverMt5-30006 *** ywang joined the game 18:17 BanaDrop Hello ywang. 18:21 foreverMt5-30002 *** ssss left the game 18:21 MinionTest3 hi 18:21 foreverMt5-30006 hi 18:22 foreverMt5-30006 *** Miniontoby joined the game 18:22 BanaDrop Hello Miniontoby. 18:22 MinionTest3 I understand the document you written 18:22 MinionTest3 *send 18:23 foreverMt5-30006 both :) (well, part of it was taken from other sources) 18:23 foreverMt5-30006 what do you need to have to make this working? 18:23 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: mainly the interlocking priv 18:23 foreverMt5-30006 check 18:23 foreverMt5-30006 and ones relevant for trackworking (train_operator, track_builder) 18:24 foreverMt5-30006 and railway_operator 18:24 foreverMt5-30006 by the way, you can grant multiple privs at once: /grant x y z 18:24 foreverMt5-30006 train_builder doesnt exist 18:24 foreverMt5-30006 yeah 18:24 foreverMt5-30006 track_builder 18:25 foreverMt5-30006 eh, there is not curved variants of feature tracks 18:25 foreverMt5-30006 ? 18:25 foreverMt5-30006 oh 18:25 foreverMt5-30006 yeah 18:25 foreverMt5-30006 feature tracks: loading/unloading tracks, (Lua)ATC tracks, station tracks, etc 18:25 foreverMt5-30006 yes 18:25 foreverMt5-30006 also the area is protected so ... 18:25 foreverMt5-30006 True 18:26 foreverMt5-30006 nw you can 18:28 foreverMt5-30006 weirdly, I can not build a TCB here 18:28 foreverMt5-30006 oh 18:28 foreverMt5-30006 i didnt add 18:28 foreverMt5-30006 wait i did 18:28 foreverMt5-30006 try 18:28 foreverMt5-30006 oh wait 18:28 foreverMt5-30006 the one benead the stair 18:28 foreverMt5-30006 check 18:29 foreverMt5-30006 btw personnaly I like the Signal (Off) more 18:29 foreverMt5-30006 I use Ks signals more as a habit than anything else 18:29 foreverMt5-30006 oke 18:30 foreverMt5-30006 Imma try to use Green Subway for Dutch Train 18:31 foreverMt5-30006 oh wait me now have blender 18:32 foreverMt5-30006 does the orange color do sth? 18:32 foreverMt5-30006 orange: expect stop 18:32 foreverMt5-30006 CRASH 18:32 foreverMt5-30006 oh sh*t 18:33 foreverMt5-30006 oh this signal not linked 18:34 foreverMt5-30006 fixed 18:34 foreverMt5-30006 one moment 18:34 foreverMt5-30006 sure.... 18:34 foreverMt5-30006 the second rout is for storering 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 you do not need that entry signal 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 yes 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 i need 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 this one 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 to select route for store 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 to go right 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: you don't need it. Otherwise you get deadlocks 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 oke 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 but how to store train? 18:35 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: think about the situation where a train wants to enter while both sections are occupied ... 18:36 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: you need two routes for that purpose 18:36 foreverMt5-30006 oh 18:36 foreverMt5-30006 oh wait, do you drive on the left? 18:36 foreverMt5-30006 ? 18:36 foreverMt5-30006 with two rails 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 we got left rail is left and right rail is at right (for signals) 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 irl 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 but yeah idk 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 no. I meant whether you drive on the left track or the right one 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 I copied this from blockhead 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 this train 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 looks like left-hand operation 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 went straigth 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 origianl 18:37 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: you need to start this train, by the way 18:38 foreverMt5-30006 there is no rout 18:38 foreverMt5-30006 I set one up 18:38 foreverMt5-30006 it is not set 18:38 foreverMt5-30006 to start 18:38 foreverMt5-30006 also: the train should stop at a signal if there is no route (assuming the signal is set up correctly 18:38 foreverMt5-30006 Ahh 18:39 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: wait. Go to train properties and then "clear ARS flag" 18:39 foreverMt5-30006 that camera correction 18:39 foreverMt5-30006 I found it 18:39 foreverMt5-30002 *** fghy joined the game 18:39 BanaDrop Hello fghy. 18:39 foreverMt5-30006 ahh 18:39 foreverMt5-30002 hi 18:39 foreverMt5-30006 those platforms are irrtatiing 18:39 foreverMt5-30006 Hi fghy 18:40 foreverMt5-30006 maybe we need to name the sections 18:40 foreverMt5-30006 I don't have the habit of doing that, but IMO it's up to your choice 18:41 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: since I (accidentally) switched to right-hand operation, you may want to consider changing the station tracks here 18:41 foreverMt5-30006 oke 18:42 foreverMt5-30002 *** fghy left the game 18:42 foreverMt5-30006 oh, I used LuaATC tracks to the extent that I forgot how the station track formspec looks like 18:44 foreverMt5-30006 what to do with this signal? 18:44 foreverMt5-30006 since we swtiche 18:44 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: you don't need that one 18:44 foreverMt5-30006 and this tcb 18:44 foreverMt5-30006 keep that TCB 18:45 foreverMt5-30006 oke 18:45 foreverMt5-30006 it prevents the junction from being merged with the track itself 18:46 foreverMt5-30006 they are now named 18:47 foreverMt5-30006 btw can we change this part here? 18:47 foreverMt5-30006 it doesnt fit for the station 18:47 foreverMt5-30006 but it doesnt want to do 18:48 foreverMt5-30006 eh, you need a longer platform 18:48 foreverMt5-30006 yeah 18:49 foreverMt5-30006 the other is fine 18:49 foreverMt5-30006 *** ywang left the game (Timed out) 18:50 foreverMt5-30006 *** ywang joined the game 18:50 BanaDrop Hello ywang. 18:52 foreverMt5-30006 i made backup 18:52 foreverMt5-30006 uhmmm 18:53 foreverMt5-30006 the map has changed location again 18:54 foreverMt5-30006 oh wait only my calculations 18:55 foreverMt5-30006 its fine 18:56 foreverMt5-30006 doesn't minetestmapper have an option to specify the center of the map? 18:56 foreverMt5-30006 btw if you want your own skin, there is a skin upload page 18:56 foreverMt5-30006 netmapper it is 18:56 foreverMt5-30006 stop 18:56 foreverMt5-30006 dont load all the chunks 18:56 foreverMt5-30006 ? 18:56 foreverMt5-30006 I dont want map to be HUGE 18:57 foreverMt5-30006 just yet 18:57 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: I'm only looking for a place to build something sane on 18:57 foreverMt5-30006 oh 18:58 foreverMt5-30006 i can get rid of the trees 18:58 foreverMt5-30006 no thanks. I prefer a place for myself 18:58 foreverMt5-30006 oke 18:58 foreverMt5-30006 https://minetest.ircforever.org/trains.html -> map 18:58 BanaDrop 12Title: IRCForever Trains Server 18:58 foreverMt5-30006 its not real time 18:58 foreverMt5-30006 I saw that 18:59 foreverMt5-30006 because that thing crashes server 18:59 foreverMt5-30006 becuase sqlite3 error 18:59 foreverMt5-30006 thigny 18:59 foreverMt5-30006 I thought servers tend to use pgsql or something similar? 19:00 foreverMt5-30006 I use sqlite3 so i can make backups without stopping sever 19:00 foreverMt5-30006 i use mtctl 19:00 foreverMt5-30006 and that has backup feature 19:00 foreverMt5-30006 IMO sane databases in general should allow you to make backups without stopping the server 19:00 foreverMt5-30006 oke 19:01 foreverMt5-30006 btw https://wiki.minetest.net/Database_backends says sqlite is a really good one 19:01 foreverMt5-30006 (well, that is my personal opinion. I don't have much knowledge on server-side stuff) 19:02 foreverMt5-30006 yeah me also not too much, but I know enough 19:02 foreverMt5-30006 and also enough to spam chat with advertisements 19:02 foreverMt5-30006 I suppose the lack of concurrent access is a downside of sqlite 19:02 foreverMt5-30006 thx to ctf server 19:02 MinionTest3 !tr nl lack of concurrent access 19:02 BanaDrop gebrek aan gelijktijdige toegang 19:03 foreverMt5-30006 I can copy the file using rsync (just like the backup) and then read it 19:03 foreverMt5-30006 but yeah i get the point 19:03 foreverMt5-30006 I mostly now go to my friends (at 20:00) and then play games with them 19:03 foreverMt5-30006 ah. Can you not run minetestmapper or advtrains-netmapper on that backup? (assuming that it's not modified) 19:04 foreverMt5-30006 Miniontoby: ok. Have fun 19:04 foreverMt5-30006 I am running minetestmapper and netmapper on the current one 19:04 foreverMt5-30006 will be back totmorow 19:04 foreverMt5-30006 at school wifi 19:04 foreverMt5-30006 will be fine 19:04 foreverMt5-30006 ok 19:04 foreverMt5-30006 if you stay at irc , I will keep you up 19:05 MinionTest3 and maybe request an IRC Bouncer, it stays 24/7 connected and can keep logs while you are away 19:05 MinionTest3 the command is !bnc and then the bot will tell you all you need to know 19:05 foreverMt5-30006 bye 19:05 foreverMt5-30006 *** Miniontoby left the game 19:05 foreverMt5-30006 ok 19:05 y5nw !bnc 19:05 MinionTest3 (btw MinionTest3 == Miniontoby == me) 19:05 y5nw I see 19:06 MinionTest3 But yeah I used this weechat session for testing multiplayer chat game 19:06 MinionTest3 but never changed nick 19:07 MinionTest3 btw you can get your own vps to host minetest on like I do here for free (with a commitment per week) 19:07 MinionTest3 jrmu: can tell you more about it 19:08 y5nw I have quite some things to work on in terms of MT-related stuff, in particular Advtrains (see commit log and branches) 19:08 MinionTest3 And you can also host a wiki and websites with SSL and more 19:09 MinionTest3 Nice 19:09 MinionTest3 I gtg for today 19:10 MinionTest3 old_debiankaios is also a mt'er IIRC, right? 19:10 MinionTest3 .players 19:10 mttrackr Players on foreverMt5-30006: ywang 19:10 mttrackr Total: 1 player across 1 active server (and 2 inactive servers). 19:10 MinionTest3 ttyl 19:10 MinionTest3 leave your message here and mention my name, then I will see them tormowo 19:10 y5nw I still need to learn IRC so ... thanks for the info 20:05 foreverMt5-30002 *** mramroma joined the game 20:05 BanaDrop Hello mramroma. 20:09 foreverMt5-30002 *** mramroma left the game 20:24 foreverMt5-30002 *** good joined the game 20:24 BanaDrop Hello good. 20:24 foreverMt5-30002 hello 20:24 foreverMt5-30006 hi 20:25 foreverMt5-30002 hi 20:27 foreverMt5-30002 *** good left the game 21:04 foreverMt5-30006 *** ywang left the game