Time  Nick        Message
08:44 MinionTest3 jrmu, our email works fine! but only sending using squirrle doesn't really seem to work, but I haven't been able to confirm it anyhow... squirrlemail guide DOESNT tell you how to configurate SMTP. (it only tells about IMAP)
12:52 libredev    MinionTest3: the guide uses femail as SMTP client.
13:19 jrmu        MinionTest3: yeah what libredev said is correct, it's using femail as smtp client (femail is a chrooted substitute for sendmail)
13:19 jrmu        you could also use smtp(1) from openbsd to send
13:19 jrmu        if you figured out how to chroot that
15:16 libredev    MinionTest3: jrmu: I have tried configuring squirrelmail on my vps and it seems like it has some problems atleast on openbsd.
15:17 libredev    When configured through SMTP on localhost, it timeout when composing mail but mail get delivered successfully.
15:18 jrmu        btw MinionTest3 Athelstan libredev check out on #opers
15:18 jrmu        libredev: hmm
15:18 jrmu        I don't use SMTP, instead I use sendmail/femail
15:18 jrmu        because SMTP sending may require authentication
15:18 jrmu        did you try whitelisting your host ip address in /etc/mail/hosts?
15:19 jrmu        normally outbound email sending requires smtp authentication unless your host is whitelisted by opensmtpd
15:25 libredev    jrmu: yeah it has localhost(127.0.0.1) in /etc/mail/hosts
15:26 jrmu        hmm
15:26 jrmu        do you see any errors in /var/log/maillog?
15:26 libredev    it working fine, the mail is getting sent and a copy is saved in sent folder, it just stuck on sent and timeout on webmail.
15:27 libredev    there is no error on maillog
15:27 libredev    jrmu: and you know it is more weird with femail.
15:28 jrmu        oh odd. You are using sendmail or smtp?
15:28 jrmu        I never tried smtp personally
15:28 jrmu        I've only tried femail/sendmail
15:28 libredev    when configured with femail, configtest shows sendmail OK, but on pressing send button, it says "127 Can't execute command '/bin/femail -t -flibredev@fossdev.host.oddprotocol.org'."
15:30 libredev    $sendmail_path          = '/bin/femail';
15:30 libredev    $sendmail_args          = '-t';
15:30 libredev    $useSendmail            = true;
15:31 libredev    and yes femail is working fine when runing inside same chroot.
15:32 libredev    jrmu: does httpd require some flag to allow execution of command from cgi script?
15:34 jrmu        hm it's working fine?
15:34 jrmu        is /bin/sh inside the chroot?
15:34 jrmu        yes it does allow execution of commands but maybe there is something missing from the chrooted shell environment
15:34 jrmu        make sure necessary executables are set +x
15:35 jrmu        I haven't done this in a while, I had hoped the guide had given clear instructions, but maybe not
15:39 libredev    jrmu: the guide doesn't even set the senmail path to femail
15:40 libredev    jrmu: do you have squirrelmail on ircnow?
15:40 jrmu        libredev: I might have at one point then got tired of using it lol
15:40 jrmu        let me check
15:40 libredev    lol
15:41 libredev    jrmu: "is /bin/sh inside the chroot?" -- why need sh, i think chroot work without it? or maybe squirrelmail trying to execute sh? idk
15:41 jrmu        I think sendmail may be aliased to femail
15:41 jrmu        is that the case?
15:42 jrmu        I seem to recall sh being necessary
15:42 jrmu        I can't remember exactly though it's been a long time
15:44 libredev    jrmu: femail and sendmail are two different things, and have different man pages
15:44 libredev    btw, the man page options seems identical
15:45 libredev    let me try sendmail instead of femail
15:47 libredev    127 Can't execute command '/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -flibredev@fossdev.host.oddprotocol.org'.
15:48 jrmu        IIRC femail is just an adapter for sendmail
15:48 jrmu        yeah they're basically identical
15:56 libredev    jrmu: ah, it was using sh.
15:56 jrmu        yeah that was my suspicion
15:56 libredev    but the same problem after the compose
15:56 jrmu        I think what happens is the cgi script
15:56 jrmu        is calling something like $ /bin/femail
15:56 libredev    it stucks
15:56 jrmu        in the shell
15:56 jrmu        so it needs the shell there
15:56 jrmu        it sends fine when you run the chroot command manually?
15:57 libredev    yeah
15:57 jrmu        hmm...
15:57 libredev    the mail got delivered but the webmail stuck on send
15:57 jrmu        I wish I had time to help debug
15:57 jrmu        it could be a bug in a newer version of sendmail
15:57 libredev    and after 1 minute it timeout
15:57 jrmu        naglfar updated it to use the most recent sendmail
15:57 jrmu        I don't recall this issue in the older sendmail
15:57 jrmu        s/sendmail/squirrelmail/
15:57 libredev    i am using stable user but wiki uses status snapshot
15:58 libredev    stable version*
15:58 jrmu        ah
15:58 libredev    i am using stable version* but wiki uses stable* snapshot
15:58 jrmu        do you want to try the snapshot? or maybe you could replace squirrelmail, it's up to your tema
15:58 jrmu        I liked squirrelmail because it was simple to install
15:58 jrmu        the other one roundcube is painful on openbsd
15:59 libredev    ah i just like using native clients, i hate web, i was testing it for MinionTest3. :D
15:59 jrmu        yeah same here
16:00 jrmu        I just use mutt or k9 mail
16:00 jrmu        I set it up for someone a long time ago and he didn't even use it
16:00 jrmu        so I figure why waste my time maintaining it
16:00 libredev    lol i agree
16:01 libredev    ok i think i done with it. :D
16:01 libredev    MinionTest3: sorry
16:01 libredev    i failed. :D
16:01 jrmu        I might try it again later, if I get some time, maybe
16:01 jrmu        but I wanted to work on inter9 more
16:01 jrmu        much more urgent in my opinion
16:05 libredev    someone has last updated the guide with redundant line on httpd.config
16:05 libredev    updated by pos
16:08 jrmu        hmm
16:08 libredev    jrmu: i think you shoud mark the guide "not complete" or "new fixing".
16:08 libredev    "need fixing"
16:15 jrmu        it used to work for me :)
16:15 jrmu        let's ask Naglfar
16:15 jrmu        can you join #rpblc and ping him there
16:15 jrmu        ask him if he got it to work because he was the last editor